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Accessing Accessible Seating @ ACC

deebenson's picture

Today my husband and I encountered problems AGAIN while trying to purchase tickets in the accessible seating section of ACC through Ticketmaster. I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same issue or if anyone has already been involved in communications with ACC/Ticketmaster regarding the current policy.

Here is the problem:

1. You can not purchase accessible seating from Ticketmaster on their website. You MUST call and speak to a representative to purchase accessible seats. You have to wait until the tickets go on sale, call, wait on hold for a very long time (usually an hour) and then finally get to try to purchase the tickets. Sometimes by the time you get through to a representative, the tickets are all sold out. (Some events do sell out in minutes...we should have the same chance at getting tickets as everyone else).

2. You can only purchase a limit of two accessible tickets. Huh??? This makes it very difficult to attend events with family members and/or friends. If you need the attendant seat for an actual "attendant", you do not get to sit with your friend/family. This poses difficulties for parents to attend with a child. In my specific case, we like to attend events as a couple AND at times bring along another family member. It isn't too much fun if the family member has to sit somewhere else (or myself for that matter). Why bother??

3. NEW POLICY.....the two previous policies have been in place for a long time (and we have been creative at working around these). The newest addition to these problems is that you MUST pick up your tickets in person at the box office. Well....thanks for making it just all the more difficult!!! We reside about an hour away from Toronto. I don't feel we should have to make a special trip to pick up tickets (other venues commonly mail or courier tickets to us). The option is to wait and pick up the tickets the day of the event. This poses many other difficulties: parking and accessing the building (you can't get in to park without your ticket so now you have to find parking elsewhere), box office opens an hour before event (get ticket, get back around to proper entrance, get to seats, usually have to wait and get shuffled around because some brainiac allowed someone else with a "regular" ticket to have the accessible seat, finally get settled....missed start of show), getting though the crowds of people, etc...
Some tickets may be purchased/picked up at a Ticketmaster location and others must be done at the ACC box office - Raptor tickets fall into the latter category as I discovered today. Confusing!

Reason for these policies: abuse of the accessible seating by individuals that do not need the accessibility. I completely agree and understand that there has been abuse of these limited seats. I completely agree that something should be in place to ensure that the individuals that require the accessible seating are the only ones purchasing the seats.

BUT - the policies they have put in place to ensure we have better access to the tickets actually have made the tickets less accessible. I feel these policies are disabling individuals more than the reason they require the accessible seating!

There has to be a better way of "defending" the accessible seats for those who require them but still allowing individuals the same opportunity to gain access and attend entertainment/sporting events. I have thought of having people pre-"register" with Ticketmaster to allow access to the seating. This may seem a tad absurd but policy #3 above is so that you can physically prove to them that you require the seating so, if we have to do that, why not allow it to be done ahead of time? Also, I would assume that most individuals that require the accessible seats would also have an accessible parking permit - I did say "most" and "assume"....I may be incorrect on this! Regardless, other venues DO use this as a way of policing the accessible seats - you have already proved you need the accessibility by having the parking permit (now, now....don't get started; THAT is a separate issue for another night). Now, to really cause some cheering (for us!), the ACC should adhere to their so-called warnings that if you are in the accessible seats and don't need the accessibility.....you are removed from the venue. Why warn individuals that you will do something if you really can not ever follow through! How can an usher "prove" that the person doesn't need the space without a huge blowup!!! This also raises concerns for those who need the accessibility but may not outwardly appear to require it.

I apologize for being long-winded, however, I wanted everyone to understand the issue from my point of view. I decided today that I needed to approach the ACC and/or Ticketmaster because these policies are very frustrating to me personally and are having a negative impact on my life and family life. Then, I remembered the "strength in numbers" for advocacy. Is this an issue for anyone else? Do you have suggestions of how to make things better? Has anyone started up the battle already (that I can join!!)? Does anyone have contacts with either ACC or TicketMaster? Should CPAO approach ACC and/or TicketMaster regarding the issue? I know that another venue has quit utilizing Ticketmaster for the accessible seating because of the policies - is it time that the ACC do this as well? I look forward to hearing your opinions and responses - I will be approaching them anyway but "the more the merrier"!!!

Thank you for your time!

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hey!! this is an excellent post from you and hwat i like the best in this is :I have thought of having people pre-"register" with Ticketmaster to allow access to the seating. This may seem a tad absurd but policy #3 above is so that you can physically prove to them that you require the seating so, if we have to do that, why not allow it to be done ahead of time? Also, I would assume that most individuals that require the accessible seats would also have an accessible parking permit - I did say "most" and "assume"....I may be incorrect on this! Regardless, other venues DO use this as a way of policing the accessible microsoft certificate seats"

Buying tickets for accessible seating

Ann Kennedy's picture

Hi, Dee:

As a person with a life-long disability who's been going to concerts for about 35 years, I feel your pain! I recently went to see Daughtry at the ACC with 2 able-bodied friends and I think I remember having to talk them into selling me 3 tickets--totally ridiculous. I like your idea of registering with Ticketmaster, but that doesn't solve the problem with other ticket sellers. I'm wondering if the Access2Entertainment card people could be modified to work in conjunction with all the ticket sellers. I don't have one of those cards currently, but I know you have to apply and I think it requires a doctor's signature--what more proof could one need? If all ticket sellers were linked in with that card system and we consumers just had to quote our I.D. number, that should do it. As for limiting the number of seats sold to prevent non-disabled people from getting disabled people to buy them tickets, it should be the same limit as in the "non-accessible" seating.

My biggest beef, however, is the fact that people in front of the accessible seating stand up and block our view. It makes me furious, and I think if the venues and ticket sellers really cared, they could do something about it. My wish has always been that an entire section in front of the accessible seating be a "no-standing" zone. I understand that it all starts with the people at the front, and that it's every person for himself once that happens, but it always makes me feel so helpless and that the people in front have absolutely no regard for the people sitting in wheelchairs who paid just as much money, but have to stare at their a@@es the whole night. The only way the venues and ticket sellers are going to give a damn is if it affects their ticket sales. We need Pearl Jam on our side!

I don't have any contacts directly with Ticketmaster, but I used to work in the music business and still know a few people . I am SO willing to be part of an advocacy group to take up this cause--I hope we hear from some more voices here!!!

my point of view

There are some points I agree on and some I don't.
I agree with:
- we should be able to purchase accessible tickets from Ticketmaster and others
- the idea of a membership number to identify us as a legitimate purchase of said type ticket
- having our tickets mailed to us
- Ann's peeve about everyone standing up in front of us. I still think we should have a section on the floor where we have a clean unobstructed view, after all, we pay enough for the tickets

Now what I don't agree with is Dee-Anne's request to be able to buy more than two tickets. As much as I understand that there sometimes could be more than one person accompanying you or you have family or kids who should be sitting with you there is a problem with changing this.

Before they put this condition in place it was a free for all. I can remember going to an event where there was one person in a wheelchair with his family and friends who in fact took the entire first row. I had to sit behind these 'able body' people and try to watch over them. There was nothing I could do as they had tickets and were with a person in a chair.
Changing this now gives several wheelchair users the ability to sit in front.

Tickets for Wheelchair accessible seating

Hello,

I am a huge hockey fan and my sister and I purchased tickets to the Maple Leafs pre-season game against the Flyers. Unfortunately, as we found out later, those seats are for section 105A, Row 18W, which is the wheelchair accessible seating. We feel terrible about this and have contacted Ticketmaster about what we should do. We do not want to deprive other fans of these seats, especially since we do not need them, and we would gladly exchange tickets and sit elsewhere. Do you have any advice or suggestions? In the meantime, I am waiting to hear back from Ticketmaster as well. Thanks.

Silvsiara

Ticketmaster

deebenson's picture

Hi Silvsiara,

Contacting Ticketmaster and seeing if you can exchange your tickets is the best way to try to solve this issue. They sold you the tickets so they should be able to straighten it out. If they are not able to resolve prior to the game, you could mention to the usher that you are willing to move to regular seating if someone requires the accessible area.

Those are the only suggestions I can think of. I do appreciate your consideration! Hopefully you are able to receive an answer from Ticketmaster - I would be interested to hear from you if they are able to resolve this issue. Perhaps all the other seating was sold out, in which case first come, first served would apply. Did you speak to a service representative to purchase the tickets?

Enjoy the game! Those are excellent tickets. My husband and I have been seated in that section for hockey games.

Dee

Hello! Thank you for writing

Hello!

Thank you for writing back. I bought the tickets during the pre-sale online and they go on sale to the general public tomorrow. I contacted Ticketmaster on Wednesday night about this and had a call back from them yesterday (around the same time I posted this message. Unfortunately, it was a message as I was at work at the time) that an exchange would be possible. I called again today, as I was unable to get a hold of the gentleman who called me yesterday and left that message, and they said they could probably exchange my tickets. Also, the lady I spoke to said she would find out if we could get a refund if there are no tickets left. She was supposed to call me at the office but I didn't hear back from her and was leaving Toronto for the weekend. I have to call in tomorrow at 10 to find out about exchanging our tickets and if worse comes to worse, perhaps we can cancel them. We really do feel bad about this. If we had realised where we were seated, we wouldn't have bought the tickets to begin with. But hopefully there will be a resolution and I will let you know how everything works out. Thank you again.

Silvsiara

The issue is resolved

Hello,

I finally managed to talk to someone at Ticketmaster and they exchanged our tickets. Unfortunately, they weren't able to find us 2 tickets for a similar price for the Flyers game so we are going to see Buffalo at the ACC instead. But everything worked out well and they were very helpful. I will be more vigilant the next time I buy tickets and I will also inform my friends about contacting Ticketmaster if they get seats in wheelchair accessible sections. Thank you again for your advice. In the end, everything was resolved.

Silvsiara